Last Friday I had the chance to attend Rob Bell’s Phoenix stop for his “Drops Like Stars tour.” This was a minor big deal in and of itself because I come from a theological tradition (Reformed Baptist, both with capitals) that is not generally interested in listening to anyone outside of their immediate circle, unless it is with a specific ear to debate what’s being said. With that being said, I disagree with Bell on several points of important theology, but I was nonetheless interested in seeing him. Regardless of your thoughts on his content, I have come to think of him as one of the best preachers (at least presenters/public speakers) out there today. Here are some initial thoughts from the day:
The first thought I had was how weird it was to be in an auditorium of people who paid to hear a pastor speak. Granted, this wasn’t a certain, it was a dramatic reinterpretation/presentation of Bell’s latest book, but still, the “Christian celebrity culture” is such an odd thing to me. Granted, I was there, so how much room do I really have to talk, but I got my tickets for free, so maybe I have some room? I was reminded that, though we claim to be different on so many levels, we are the same as everyone else on so many levels. We even have our own celebrities. None of this is necessarily Bell’s fault, unless you want to say that by embarking on a “tour” in the first place feeds the celebrity culture.
This celebrity culture is often built around the same things that the world’s celebrity culture is built around: hip people doing/saying things we think we could never do/say. Bell is bright, funny, articulate, charismatic and looks good in all black (trust me, it’s harder than it looks). He presents concepts in understandable yet deep ways and often tweaks things in just such a way that people are left thinking “I wish I had seen that.” In many ways, this is the job of artists and writers and in some sense, it is also the job of pastors. But, where it differs for pastors is that pastors must take that extra step and equip people to do/say the same things they are doing. Ephesians 4:11-16 clearly reminds us that the role of the pastor is not to impress but to equip. I don’t know how well Bell does this in his church in Grand Rapids, but the very notion of a pastor embarking on a “tour” where people pay money to hear him speak; well, I don’t know exactly.
I’ve tried to discern whether or not I just have sour grapes, if I’d like to be the hip pastor who people pay to wow over, but I really don’t think that’s it (as much as I can know my own heart). You might argue that the tour is not part of his role as pastor but as author and even to a lesser extent, artist, so it is perfectly fine. But we’re still dealing with Christian celebrity culture, aren’t we? Is this just an unavoidable byproduct of marinating in the culture that we do?
Bell’s presentation was great. He has commands attention and uses his body and the stage area not just as means to an end, but as part of his presentation as well, marking different points with different positions on the stage, etc. He is a captivating speaker who weaves a variety of allusions together in both the familiar and the unknown in just the right mix. His use of repetition (”his mother’s SUV”) works tremendously to paint vivid mental pictures and his language is at once poetic and simple, not an easy balance. His use of mixed media was spot-on and his timing was impeccable. Many preachers have much to learn here from Bell. I come from a tradition in which the primary role of preaching is information (doctrine) transfer, so it doesn’t matter if you’re an engaging speaker or not.
The danger here, of course is that many of us will simply try to copy Bell’s style. But it’s not our own and everyone (except us for a long time) knows that it’s not our own. While there is much to learn from Bell’s presentation style, there is nothing to be copied. We must learn to be sanctified versions of ourselves rather than watered-down versions of someone else. We must know our context and culture and we must strive to be good at what we do. Bell has obviously worked hard at his craft and that alone is a valuable lesson for many of us. The point is not to become a performer but a better preacher and I really think Bell has some good things to say on the practice of preaching.
The content. I received a couple of e-mails/texts immediately after the show (let’s be honest, that’s what it is) asking what I thought. Though I can’t be sure, I suspect that at least a couple of those messages wanted to know what my concerns were with the content. After all, isn’t Bell one of those people. The content was actually pretty generic if you’ve spent much time thinking about suffering, the Christian life and art. I don’t mean that in any way to belittle Bell’s book or performance, but the point really was that suffering plays an integral part in both the Christian life and the creative process.This something many of us need to think more deeply on. We forget that suffering and the Christian life cannot be separated.
Whatever concerns you may or may not have about Bell’s theology as a whole, this tour really won’t raise many eyebrows. For some, the presentation of the Cross as being God’s solidarity with us may be troublesome, but if it is understood as one aspect of the Cross and not the whole and total, I don’t see anything wrong with this except that it’s not the whole of the truth and I didn’t get the impression that that was Bell’s point. I just wish Bell had made that clarification. His metaphor of life as art is an interesting one, somewhat in line with Donald Miller’s recent thoughts on life as story.
Bell reminds us all of the need for biblical discernment. Just because someone says something very well, that doesn’t mean someone says something very right. I think Bell is a great public speaker but that doesn’t mean I agree with everything he says. In fact, Bell reminds us that, sometimes, the more charismatic the person, the more careful we need to be. It is sometimes the case that when someone is a great public speaker, we implicitly trust them a bit more and let our guard down. Bell serves as a reminder that we need to test everything and everyone.
Now if I could just pull off the all black . . .






















“We must learn to be sanctified versions of ourselves rather than watered-down versions of someone else.”
Nice! Much better than the “God in heaven will ask you why weren’t you more like you” that I’ve heard Bell use.
Great review Brent, very fair and clear.
Bell is only “contracted” to speak 21 times a year in GR so him involvment with Mars Hill is an interesting thing to contemplate… We who live here in GR see him less than the rest of the world I suspect…especially since MHill church has really declined in attendance and influence.
opps “his” not “him” involvement.
Also Re the Cross and God’s solidarity with us…This is basically the point of Hebrews 2.
(and I must confess I am not Bell fan)
It is a good thing to watch anyone who can communicate well, whether they speak to large crowds or smaller gatherings. The good use of media is an art and observing a gifted teacher/speaker is encouraging to those of us who teach/speak weekly ourselves.
But given Bell’s constant theological and historic errors and failure to actually communicate the Gospel with any clarity, I ask why we should care?
To me, saying Bell is a gifted speaker/communicator is like someone saying Bill Clinton gave a great lecture in Baton Rouge. But actually, it is much worse - since Clinton is not under the same stricter judgment.
We can glean technique and learn skills from watching Bell, but then again we can do that from a wide host of others.
We must remember that in the end, none of the fancies matter - God’s Word spoken and taught accurately does. When we are more enamored by delivery than substance we need to examine ourselves and when we are NOT concerned about delivery at all and only substance we need to as well.
Rob Bell may be a pastor, but he is also an author. This wasn’t a church service. It wasn’t a sermon. It was a lecture based on a book.
This is Rob Bell’s book tour.
Authors go on book tours to sell books. It is not uncommon to have to pay to attend a lecture/reading by a big-name author (e.g., Stephen King, Neil Gaiman, James Patterson, etc.). Oftentimes, your entrance fee is the price of the book. This is how publishers make money. This is how authors make money.
Should an author not make money for his appearance and/or books simply because he’s a believer? What if the author is R.C. Sproul? Rick Warren? Frank Peretti? Max Lucado? TD Jakes? Does your answer change depending on whether or not you agree with the theology?
Regardless of what you think of Bell, this is how the publishing industry works. They print books. They sell books. They spend money on advertising. If the author has a large enough following, they send the author on tour to ensure the books sell. As a result, the author gets his message out there. As a result, the publisher makes money off the product. THIS IS A GOOD THING, because it shows the publisher there is a market out there and they will continue publishing books. Zondervan published Bell’s new book. Zondervan also has published Sproul. If Bell’s book sells well, it means Zondervan does well, and it means they are viable to publish Sproul’s (or any pastor whose theology you agree with) next book.
The publishing industry works this way for both “Christian” and “secular” books.
I paid to see Bell’s “Drop Like Stars”. I understood going in this was a tour to promote his new book. I wasn’t expecting worship time and an altar call. I went to hear what he had to say about art and suffering. As an artist, I appreciate his lecture on many levels. It will inform how I approach my work as an artist, and how I will deal with suffering in its many forms. Not asking “Why” but “What now”. For that, I’m grateful Zondervan sent Bell on this tour, and I’m glad I spent the money to hear him speak.
And he does pull off all-black well.
Brent,
I am glad to see someone like yourself (”Reformed Baptist”) checking out Rob Bell. As one of your readers who was delighted to find music and interesting book reviews on your blog, I probably don’t share some of your theological outlook - nevertheless, it is refreshing to know that you engage with some of the people I engage with.
I’ve been listening to Rob Bell via podcasts for over 5 years now. I had the opportunity to see him in Belfast, Northern Ireland on his “Jesus wants to save Christians tour.” At that speaking engagement the ticket price paid for the venue and Rob’s traveling expenses, while the rest of the money went to a NPO - I wouldn’t be surprised if Bell is doing that again. If you look at Mars Hill’s record on giving, it is staggering. Bell has been at the center of this initiative which has given millions away to both the Grand Rapids area and the African country of Burundi. So maybe ticket prices and tours need to put into context - along with Amy’s point above about the connection between Publishing Houses and Capitalism.
As far as content - I think it is pretty unfortunate that so many people in various Christian “streams” have written off Bell as one of “those” people. Many, I imagine, have read a half a chapter of Velvet Elvis and taken the man’s words completely out of context, or read reviewer doing the same thing. Building an argument from a lack of knowledge seems short-sighted. I’ll admit, maybe I’m doing the same. I’ve never been to theological seminary. Sure, I enjoy reading theology, but I don’t have an MDiv. Nevertheless, Bell is a product of Fuller Theological, which as far as I know is quite reputable. He spent time under the direction of Pastor Ed Dobson. In other words, sure, there are things to disagree about (and always will be), but he’s not some preacher with absolutely no training or knowledge (like Prosperity Gospel preachers for example).
I’d challenge people to actually listen to some sermons and engage with his thinking. Mars Hill has been spending a lot of time going over the Sermon on the Mount - I’d recommend the first 7-8 sermons on the Beattitudes. I would imagine to many they will be refreshing and challenging, and offer a new perspective to consider in the competing marketplace of ideas. Bell is not the be-all-end-all for me, but the man has a gift at communicating the gospel in a context-rich way that brings purpose and power. If after a bunch of sermons you think the man is heretic, then at least you’ve been more genuine than most of his critics.
Sorry for the long post - again, props to you Brent - it is pretty clear from your other blogs that you are pretty rare among your cadre of colleagues - I appreciate reading what you have to say and it keeps me coming back.
Grace & Peace,
-JR
Hey Brent!
I’ve seen Bell when he came through Louisville on a different tour. I agree with your review. He is a compelling speaker and we can learn much from him though his theology is dangerous. I, too, want to grow in becoming a better speaker, but I like how Piper balances this issue out in this quote from his sermon, Is There Christian Eloquence:
Yes, there is Christian eloquence. It is not the decisive factor in salvation or sanctification; God is. But faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word. That word in the Bible is pervasively eloquent—words are put together in a way to give great impact. And God invites us to create our own eloquent phrases for his name’s sake, not ours. And in the mystery of his sovereign grace, he will glorify himself in the hearts of others in spite of and because of the words we have chosen. In that way, he will keep us humble and get all the glory for himself. Amen.